tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2698674352470153088.post2093200331885710698..comments2024-03-28T16:36:10.544-05:00Comments on The Digital Research Library of Illinois History Journal™ : Dr. Gale exposes Pabst's false claim of winning a Blue Ribbon (or Gold Medal) at the 1893 World’s Columbian Exposition in Chicago.Dr. Neil Gale, Ph.D.http://www.blogger.com/profile/10605531495401356831noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2698674352470153088.post-46902951222502729992023-02-13T16:20:13.547-06:002023-02-13T16:20:13.547-06:00It’s worth noting that Carta Blanca also claims to...It’s worth noting that Carta Blanca also claims to have won the “grand prize” at the 1983 worlds fair. It’s still on all of their labels to this day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2698674352470153088.post-88727691862294549202019-09-19T20:39:54.531-05:002019-09-19T20:39:54.531-05:00Neil, this is fascinating. Though I don't drin...Neil, this is fascinating. Though I don't drink PBR, I guess I never gave any thought to where the name came from. Great research!Chuck Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14486548834196450362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2698674352470153088.post-12711986130188182772019-09-16T13:24:51.691-05:002019-09-16T13:24:51.691-05:00Maureen Ogle also covered the battle between Pabst...Maureen Ogle also covered the battle between Pabst and Anheuser Busch in her 2006 beer history, "Ambitious Brew."Mark McDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01751257142856749241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2698674352470153088.post-88831501739814834292019-02-15T11:41:36.576-06:002019-02-15T11:41:36.576-06:00A moot point since there was only one award given ...A moot point since there was only one award given to all 1893 WCE contestants that scored above the 80 points in each contests criteria.<br /><br />Raw data doesn't excuse Pabst lying about winning a "Blue Ribbon" nor winning a "Gold Metal," both claimed by Pabst, when neither were officially issued.Dr. Neil Gale, Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10605531495401356831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2698674352470153088.post-72815044223875073442019-02-12T11:45:04.866-06:002019-02-12T11:45:04.866-06:00What I don't see here is a discussion of the s...What I don't see here is a discussion of the scoring dispute that left both Pabst and Busch claiming victory. From the Chicago Herald (I've only seen the reprint in the the Houston Post, December 26, 1893), although there wasn't an official first prize "winner" awarded as you noted, the judges did use a scoring scale. A Busch beer apparently had the highest raw score when the scores were initially submitted, a fact that was leaked by a clerk before the official awards were handed out. In the interim, before the medals were issued, the board of judges changed the scores, increasing Pabst by two points, putting them in a one-point "lead" on the score sheets. Busch appealed the scores, claiming that the points were changed improperly - the changes were made by a quorum of judges, but not a majority of all judges (they also alleged bias by some judges who had some relationship with Pabst). An appellate board upheld the changes in scoring, but reiterated that there was no first prize awarded, and that they both received the same generic award on the same level. In the aftermath, Pabst advertised its highest revised score, and Busch advertised using the original raw scores. So, while I guess your conclusion is technically correct, perhaps Pabst can still claim the highest raw score, for all that's worth - which may be nothing.Peter Jensen Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00042588192094310236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2698674352470153088.post-16397893735875788262019-01-23T08:45:43.977-06:002019-01-23T08:45:43.977-06:00Wow..$2.50 per ribbon in 1893? That was expensive!...Wow..$2.50 per ribbon in 1893? That was expensive!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04086188006260227535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2698674352470153088.post-5220254916357230082019-01-23T05:34:32.788-06:002019-01-23T05:34:32.788-06:00How rewarding for you to get acknowledged for your...How rewarding for you to get acknowledged for your research!!! I am impressed that the company changed their claim after holding it for so long. This is a good example also of not always honest advertising as well as how repetition of claims becomes accepted as fact. I may not read all of you postings, but please know I do appreciate your hard work and diligence in your research. THANK YOU!!Cindy Latimerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03788201451025055936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2698674352470153088.post-64520902450339696292019-01-22T23:19:05.485-06:002019-01-22T23:19:05.485-06:00A bit saddening to read...but I'll still drink...A bit saddening to read...but I'll still drink it!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04367364382889263219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2698674352470153088.post-46310933813094141372017-11-28T21:51:10.526-06:002017-11-28T21:51:10.526-06:00Any beer is better than no beer.. It stumps me whe...Any beer is better than no beer.. It stumps me when people say they can taste any difference. To be abole to discern the tast, means you are really so deep intop drinking that by the time you taste it, you are inebriated to the point of not knowing any difference to begin with. I do avoid beers that give me bad hangovers-- and buy more of the ones that don't, but that's after the fact..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2698674352470153088.post-56965378082829739302017-11-09T23:56:18.291-06:002017-11-09T23:56:18.291-06:00It's awesome for an historian to correct histo...It's awesome for an historian to correct history @Wesssss. I too am surprised that I'm the first to uncover a 124 year old lie. You should reread the article so you’ll understand that I did not make any claims about Pabst products or brands. So... YES. I'm taking credit for the discovery and exposure of the "real" facts.Dr. Neil Gale, Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10605531495401356831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2698674352470153088.post-46337353595488195492017-11-09T13:10:28.587-06:002017-11-09T13:10:28.587-06:00SO, Dr.
You were able to put a pin prick into the ...SO, Dr.<br />You were able to put a pin prick into the bubble of a long time myth that hurt no one, especially since the company has gone through so many subsequent acquisitions.<br />No one else's "Due Diligence" uncovered this anomaly. Your info is not going to change anything about a great old American beer and Brand.Wessssshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03223009800329438473noreply@blogger.com